January 23, 2025
Hong Lau

Easy Money Sniper - "Out the Mud" (2 minute read)

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We kicked off Q4 2024 with a major milestone in Out The Mud—an unforgettable episode featuring two of the most influential figures in modern NBA history: Zach Randolph and Tony Allen. The response was overwhelming, and the show quickly became a hit, amassing 12 million views on YouTube alone.

Now, as we head into 2025, we're bringing the same energy, launching with two more basketball legends: Joakim Noah and the often controversial but highly revered Kevin Durant.

I had the privilege of heading down to Phoenix to join Kevin and the OTM team for the recording. From the moment Kevin stepped into the room, his energy was electric. He immediately set the tone with, "Out the M**** f**** Mud—you know I had to get on with some legends." That line alone kicked off what turned out to be an incredible conversation.

As we've continued this journey of interviewing influential figures within their respective fields, we've learned a few key things:

  • Peer-to-peer conversations hit differently.
  • When there's mutual respect and a sense of comfort, the conversation flows naturally and creates a much stronger product.
  • These sit-downs radiate authenticity and our fans notice.

And let me tell you, this episode with Kevin Durant was no exception. We received nearly triple-digit comments from fans saying this was one of the best basketball podcasts they've seen and that it was easily the best episode featuring Kevin Durant due to how relaxed and comfortable he was during the conversation.

Tony and Zach do an exceptional job of making their guests feel at ease, which is a big part of what sets Out The Mud apart. Their authenticity creates an environment where guests can truly open up.

In this episode, Kevin Durant touches on a wide range of topics, including:

  • The real story behind choosing the number 35 and its lasting impact
  • A candid conversation about his decision to leave OKC
  • His belief that the Warriors would come back from being down 3-1 in the 2019 NBA Finals against the Raptors
  • His experience trying out modelling
  • Why international basketball still hasn't caught up to USA Basketball

And that's just a glimpse of the many insights shared during this candid conversation. You'll have to tune in to the episode yourself to see what all the buzz is about.